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February 18th, 2010
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Elaborating on his fascination with Che’s will, Soderbergh explained: “His ability to sustain outrage is what is remarkable to me. We all get outraged about stuff, but to sustain it to the point of putting your ass on the line to change what outrages you, to do it consistently year after year, and to twice walk away from everything and everybody to do it—it’s not normal.”

Soderbergh’s treatment explains the cult of Che Guevara for me. Its grounds are not to be found in the fighter’s altruism looking out for the victims of oppression contrary to their will welcoming its violation. Neither is the would-be liberator morally disqualified by the resistance of his potential beneficiaries; for what good is his intelligence, if not to warrant his authority to speak and act on their benighted behalves? Be it due to sacrificial selflessness or intellectual vanity, Che’s capacity for staying pissed off makes him stand out.

Anticipating his own political martyrdom, Cicero commented on an earlier occasion of noble failure: “ut aegroto, dum anima est, spes esse dicitur”. (Letters to Atticus 9.10.3.) To the sick, while there is life there is hope. Proverbial wisdom condensed Ciceronian dicta to expand their purview: “dum spiro spero”; while I breathe I hope. But to the truly outraged, hope is beside the point. Suffice unto them to spew forth. Dum spiro sputo.

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From:bzeev
Date:February 19th, 2010 03:37 am (UTC)
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Ah... That explains the Austin incident.
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From:larvatus
Date:February 19th, 2010 07:07 am (UTC)
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You are conflating el foquismo with suicide terrorism. Each has its reasons, but to date only the guerrilleros have managed to build complete societies.
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From:bzeev
Date:February 19th, 2010 12:07 pm (UTC)
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What happened in Austin was not a suicide terrorism. Certainly not of a kind that the paper describes.
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From:larvatus
Date:February 19th, 2010 03:56 pm (UTC)
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How so?
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From:bzeev
Date:February 19th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
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Have you seen videos left behind by muslim suicide bombers? They all looked like brainwashed zombies, at least that's how they appeared to me. The Austin guy was not a zombie and he was not out to terrorize</i> the populace. He was out to kill very specific motherfuckers. Then again, if he were prescribed proper medication and take regulary... But the ability to sustain outrage he did have, no arguing that.
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From:larvatus
Date:February 19th, 2010 07:37 pm (UTC)
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I see several problems with your analogy. Che Guevara commanded small bands of well-trained fighters equipped with small arms that could be, and were, precisely aimed at specific enemy targets. Joe Stack flew his plane into a building that contained about 200 IRS employees, killing one of them at the cost of his own life. His spur of the moment deed falls short of effective use of limited resources for specific targeting, as advocated by Che. A man who sustains his outrage year after year would plan much better.
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From:bzeev
Date:February 20th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
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Fortunately for many of us this guy is not of the Che caliber. I just liked the expression "sustained outrage". Ability to translate it into something truly horrendous is another matter.
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From:larvatus
Date:February 20th, 2010 02:02 am (UTC)
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I believe that being able to sustain outrage readily translates into something truly horrendous or truly terrific.
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From:bzeev
Date:February 20th, 2010 11:46 am (UTC)
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I believe we made ourselves clear and that's a good thing, but that does not mean we have to agree on every point:)
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From:larvatus
Date:February 20th, 2010 06:43 pm (UTC)
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Agreed on these points.
From:tristes_tigres
Date:February 19th, 2010 08:06 pm (UTC)
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Stalin killed off all revolutionaries in this country. Latin America was luckier. They're going to show Uncle Sam, I fondly hope.
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From:larvatus
Date:February 19th, 2010 08:40 pm (UTC)
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Admittedly impotent hopes are your stock in trade.
From:tristes_tigres
Date:February 19th, 2010 09:01 pm (UTC)
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It would be more accurate to say that I am like coach potato football fans. Still, it's morally superior to subverting the discourse of liberation and guerrilla struggle to justify personal vendetta with a whiff of extortion.
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From:larvatus
Date:February 19th, 2010 10:25 pm (UTC)
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As our genetic and hormonal superiors seldom tire of telling us, the personal is political. On that level, I can’t help admiring Uncle Joe for reaching out from under the Kremlin wall, to snip your gonads in the bud. As for your finely tuned olfactory receptors, extortion requires a threat to inflict an unlawful injury upon any person or property, which cannot be realized by touting matters of public record. “Was nicht verboten ist, ist erlaubt.”
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